Ross Douthat

And this is not the first interview you've done.

Let me put it this way.

You've chosen to spend time with journalists.

And we're grateful, but I want to know why.

We had actually Clavicular, you know, the looks maxer, scheduled and he bailed.

I don't know that.

You don't know about Clavicular?

Then that is actually one of the small mercies of your own life and will let viewers figure out for themselves who Clavicular is.

But yeah, in all seriousness, you're doing a lot of talking.

You've actually, you've become a podcaster yourself, right?

You have a podcast.

All right.

All right.

Well, we are very grateful.

Just tell me a little bit about the diagnosis and how you ended up where you are right now.

You hadn't had any pain before nothing before this training, nothing until the last couple days of October.

We've had so many changes in oncology care is never a phrase you want to hear.

So we're having this conversation in Austin, Texas, where you were a long time ago at UT Austin.

And so you're using this as a kind of family base when you're doing the treatments in Houston.

You got it.