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Ross Douthat

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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?

And it is that blow that has yielded the Iranian closure of the Straits.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?

So that's where we are now.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?

So it's not that the counterfactual is important, but so is the reality that we delivered a set of blows successfully.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?

We chose to go further.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?

That has activated a really substantial Iranian response that threatens

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?

global energy markets, the global economy, and just sort of the core economic and civilizational functioning of the Persian Gulf.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?

And so with that said, what do we do about it?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?

why was it inevitable if we were able to, again, substantially degrade both their terror proxy networks and their nuclear program?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?

Iran was not going to close the Strait of Hormuz six months ago.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?

It didn't close the Strait of Hormuz in response to our bombing of Fordow.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?

It only closed the Strait when we went all in, and more than going all in on military elements, when we went all in

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?

in targeting regime leadership.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?

And I'm just going to use the U.S.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?

and Israel interchangeably here for this campaign because I think that that is accurate to what is practically going on.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?

In a world where we didn't target the Iranian regime leadership, where we didn't attempt to force regime change, where we just carried out periodic bombings of their military and so on,

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?

It's not clear to me that you can say definitely, oh, well, of course, eventually Iran would have closed the straits.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?

They closed the strait in response to our attempt at regime change.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?

So essentially what has happened is, in your view, Donald Trump was the only American president capable of confronting Iran in any meaningful way, allowing Israel to confront its proxies.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?

And so in fact, it is that we have chosen to fight an inevitable battle of Hormuz now because we don't trust our own political system to restrain Iran without an epic battle right now.