Ross Douthat

Right?

They're like, not another podcast, Dad.

Exactly.

All right, we're going to come back to cancer and death and subjects like that.

Well, you have, for listeners and viewers who don't know, there is a famous, I don't know if it's technically a meme, but there's a famous image of you when you were a senator sitting outside the Senate.

Were you with Chuck Schumer?

This is what journalism is, Senator.

It looked like you were ready for a pickup basketball game.

Or you had just lost a pickup basketball game.

That's good.

Well, we need to get someone to Photoshop, just as you were gesturing there, a giant blunt into your hand.

And this can be the equivalent of that.

Was it Joe Rogan where Elon Musk was smoking up, right?

So, you know, interesting times.

There's some high times, interesting times crossover we can do with this meme.

We'll get our people to work on it.

You've got other more pressing concerns.

Before we talk more about, you know, human mortality and yours specifically...

Now that you're dying, as far as we know, it's a natural time to ask you big, important questions about American politics and your experience thereof.

And you're, you know, you have special wisdom because, you know, because you're dying.