Ross Douthat

All right.

You'll have to come back to this show in 2050.

Talk to my AI avatar.

And on that last, that can be the last question.

Yeah.

New religions.

Yeah.

We haven't really talked about the role of the internet.

I think it's sort of the ground underlying a lot of the trends you're talking about.

But when you look at everything from online life in general to how people relate to AI and so on,

Do you see something genuinely new emerging in that space or is it all too soon to tell?

All right.

That's a bold prediction and a good place to end.

Ryan Burge, thank you so much for joining me.

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