Roy Keane

They did, yeah.

Yeah.

You can have a project.

That's the perception, Ang, isn't it?

Someone's journey, whatever way you've come in.

Some people then would look at managers going, they don't deserve a big job.

No, that's right, yeah, yeah.

Because they'd only focus on what you've done.

It's Celtic, obviously, but you go, no, if you look back, somebody, whether you rate different leagues or whatever country, you've managed hundreds and hundreds of games.

So the perception might have been, I don't know, like with some of the media, did you warrant this job or did you warrant that?

And you're having battles from day one.

Because they know how it works.

But some players take it well.

We had, obviously, Madison at Spurs, didn't we?

Yeah, yeah.

And I gave him plenty.

And they give it back to you.

The problem that's thrown at managers, unfortunately, sometimes when they're talking about this is like, as if then you don't have a plan B. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If you're playing long ball, but then you start losing people, oh, he's not got another plan.

So that's what's thrown at managers, I think, a lot as well, unfortunately.