Roy Keane

Bielsa when Bielsa went into Leeds at first it took them a while and people said he's doing double sessions they're playing killer ball and then they got results the players were loving it double sessions we love it then they started losing training's too hard getting our days off so it's and then the next manager comes in and goes oh it's a lot better you know we're playing a lot freer and it's not as structured and all that kind of stuff and

Was it Sunderland at home you played at?

Was it Sunderland?

It was games.

You missed chances.

I remember those games.

I managed to get back at London's career and go, the chances you missed against Sunderland out there.

Even the Cup game.

Just get over the line in them games.

I always think if a manager going in, whatever, there might be hang-ups, but if you get that little bit of momentum, if you don't get it at the start, you are up against... Yeah, that's what happened at Tottenham.

But you know when you speak to Spurs, I'm interested when managers go in and you're speaking to maybe Spurs or Forrest, and you know also, particularly with Forrest...

When I have my first sticky patch, that might come after a month, the owner's got previous there.

I always think for certain managers, and I know people want to go back to work, but it must be awkward shaking hands with somebody going, as soon as I have a bad spell, I'm out the door.

No, you're right.

Yeah, but surely a manager must be, and it's not just at Forest, and I'm looking at other managers, they're going to a club, and you go, so you're shaking hands, and managers talk about, they want to, I'm not using the word project, because that's, you know, but sometimes you want to say, I want to try and build something for two, three, four, five years, like previously, but you're meeting somebody, and you're not going to get that opportunity.

Do you see it as a business thing?

Well, I could be gone here in 12.

Do managers now go, listen, that's the game I'm in now.

I won't be getting two, three, four years.

Nah.