Ruben Gallego

is I won't do something that's just truly inauthentic.

Because I think the American public is really smart.

And if you are just like triangulating for the sake of votes, they're going to smell it.

And if you're triangulating for the sake of, so you could say that you're moderate and show that you're moderate, they're going to smell it.

So I think that's not necessarily what we want to do.

But look, when it comes to individual candidates in these really, really red states, especially because yes, we have to win races,

We should we should tolerate what we can from them as long as they win those races.

And when we get we get them in, then we have to get through a negotiation.

Right.

Like you may run in some areas where you're a little more on the conservative side.

But when you get to the Senate, you know, you could speak all you want.

But when it comes to certain votes and stuff like that, you know, we want to make sure that you're not out there to screw some of our most important, you know, bases.

And I say that, by the way, nobody wants chaos on the border and no one wants chaos in our streets.

It's because immigration, immigration issues, when it comes to policy side, are actually shaped by the extremes of the issue.

And so, you know, for example, if you were involved in policymaking for the last gazillion years like I have when it comes to immigration enforcement issues, the people that have actually been – have had the most power have had the most kind of liberal positions on immigration, right?

Liberal to the point where, you know, the Latino voters felt that it was out of line.

But what happens a lot of times because –

the policymaking brain of the Democratic Party in terms of, you know, immigration tends to come from liberal groups.

A lot of times when these senators and members of Congress and committees start looking for the brainpower, they go pick from those liberal groups and bring them in.

And that's where it's shaped.