Ruby Hall

I was actually over in Perth a couple of months ago for my brother's wedding and her 80th, so we recorded this a few days after.

She grew up in New Zealand in the 50s and the 60s, my Nana did, and unexpectedly fell pregnant when she was 17 and was forced to give her baby up for adoption.

A few years later, she was with my granddad and they had three beautiful girls, one being my mum, and at that time in her life, she opened up about her hidden grief and was

wanting to reach out and reconnect with her adopted son.

So this is my Nana's story and what she knows at 80.

I hope you enjoy this conversation.

Like I have.

Yes.

I've grown up really close with my Nana.

I've lived with you.

I lived with you when I was a little girl.

I lived with you when I was in my early to mid-twenties.

I've always adored going over to Nana and Grandad's for a sleepover, so much so I've

You played a really huge part in my upbringing and in my brother's.

And of course you have, how many grandchildren do you have?

You have 12.

I'm the eldest.

I was the first.

A surprise all those years ago, wasn't I?

Well, when you were 16, you unexpectedly fell pregnant.