Russ Dorsey

And then Davis Martin and Cam Schlittler.

I don't think that's unreasonable.

Those guys have been great.

I've talked to lots of people over the last six weeks or so about this, and you get a lot of shrugs.

Teams have tried a lot of things.

Teams have tried having guys throw more, giving guys more leeway.

Teams have pulled guys back, not getting to certain pitch thresholds, maybe getting the extra day's rest, kind of like they do in Japan where you only pitch once a week.

The Tigers and Tarek Skubal, they've been super cautious since he came back a couple of years ago.

Where he very rarely goes over 100 pitches.

And if he does, it's maybe one, two, or three pitches over 100.

It's not like 15 to 20.

Last year, the Cubs said, no, we're going to give him an extra day.

We're going to skip him.

We're going to do all these different things.

And so sometimes I...

I think a lot of executives around baseball are scratching their heads right now of like, we're trying all the things.

But I do think some of it comes down to, number one, you have a higher probability of getting to the big leagues if you throw hard and you can spin the baseball.

And as much as... I'm just even talking once you get...

To minor league baseball.

High school.