Russ Perry

I haven't been too aggressive about that.

I was talking to one company out of South Dakota of all places before COVID hit and just put the ice on that.

Interesting.

Yeah, well, when you're ready to not have to even mess with that anymore, we'll be here for you.

I think with Fiverr, they actually tried to buy us twice last year.

And they were on premium.

But what comes down to is when you need one every week or one every day, and you just want to send the info to someone and not have them give them a brief, not have it go through the commerce checkout process or sync it to your Asana, you just put the details in there and it zaps right over to Design Pickle.

It's not that high.

I know that.

So I must have gotten something off in that.

I'm the creative guy, remember?

Yeah, I know it's not the cheapest out there.

It was just the easiest for us at the time because we are not a pure SaaS business.

We're a tech-enabled service.

So it was harder for us to try to find other lending that would have been when we were smaller.

The first round was $3 million.

The second round was $20 million.

And then I said no to both.

The second round was what year?

Last year?