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Russ Swain

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The Jordan Harbinger Show
1129: Russ Swain | The Good Mormon Who Made Bad Money

and i don't even know who you are and once the trust is gone i could just see the love drain out of her eyes i knew there was no fixing that but she stayed with me to get me through all of the the courts and everything i mean what else could we do i hired a cheap attorney and he wasn't great he was anything but he didn't put his heart and soul into this

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1129: Russ Swain | The Good Mormon Who Made Bad Money

and i don't even know who you are and once the trust is gone i could just see the love drain out of her eyes i knew there was no fixing that but she stayed with me to get me through all of the the courts and everything i mean what else could we do i hired a cheap attorney and he wasn't great he was anything but he didn't put his heart and soul into this

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1129: Russ Swain | The Good Mormon Who Made Bad Money

and i don't even know who you are and once the trust is gone i could just see the love drain out of her eyes i knew there was no fixing that but she stayed with me to get me through all of the the courts and everything i mean what else could we do i hired a cheap attorney and he wasn't great he was anything but he didn't put his heart and soul into this

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1129: Russ Swain | The Good Mormon Who Made Bad Money

But strangely enough, Roger Rodak, the Secret Service man, was there at the courthouse that day that I had to go before the judge. And the prosecuting attorney did a very convincing job. He said, the quality of these bills are a testament to his criminal intent to defraud the government, to defraud the American people. He would have done this. He would have expanded on it.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1129: Russ Swain | The Good Mormon Who Made Bad Money

But strangely enough, Roger Rodak, the Secret Service man, was there at the courthouse that day that I had to go before the judge. And the prosecuting attorney did a very convincing job. He said, the quality of these bills are a testament to his criminal intent to defraud the government, to defraud the American people. He would have done this. He would have expanded on it.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1129: Russ Swain | The Good Mormon Who Made Bad Money

But strangely enough, Roger Rodak, the Secret Service man, was there at the courthouse that day that I had to go before the judge. And the prosecuting attorney did a very convincing job. He said, the quality of these bills are a testament to his criminal intent to defraud the government, to defraud the American people. He would have done this. He would have expanded on it.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1129: Russ Swain | The Good Mormon Who Made Bad Money

He was lucky he was caught, but he needs to be punished to the full extent of the law. And as he's giving his argument of how much criminal intent there was, Roger Rodak, the Secret Service man, raised his hand and he says, I object to this, Your Honor. And he said, you're objecting to the prosecution. He says, yes, I am. He says, but you're on our team. You're on the other side. He says, yes.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1129: Russ Swain | The Good Mormon Who Made Bad Money

He was lucky he was caught, but he needs to be punished to the full extent of the law. And as he's giving his argument of how much criminal intent there was, Roger Rodak, the Secret Service man, raised his hand and he says, I object to this, Your Honor. And he said, you're objecting to the prosecution. He says, yes, I am. He says, but you're on our team. You're on the other side. He says, yes.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1129: Russ Swain | The Good Mormon Who Made Bad Money

He was lucky he was caught, but he needs to be punished to the full extent of the law. And as he's giving his argument of how much criminal intent there was, Roger Rodak, the Secret Service man, raised his hand and he says, I object to this, Your Honor. And he said, you're objecting to the prosecution. He says, yes, I am. He says, but you're on our team. You're on the other side. He says, yes.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1129: Russ Swain | The Good Mormon Who Made Bad Money

He says, what he's saying is that this proves criminal intent. He says, I argue that it proves creative intent. There is a big difference. And that's why I said the essence of creativity and criminality is it's all based on getting away from certainty. And so anyway, he said, it shows creative intent.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1129: Russ Swain | The Good Mormon Who Made Bad Money

He says, what he's saying is that this proves criminal intent. He says, I argue that it proves creative intent. There is a big difference. And that's why I said the essence of creativity and criminality is it's all based on getting away from certainty. And so anyway, he said, it shows creative intent.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1129: Russ Swain | The Good Mormon Who Made Bad Money

He says, what he's saying is that this proves criminal intent. He says, I argue that it proves creative intent. There is a big difference. And that's why I said the essence of creativity and criminality is it's all based on getting away from certainty. And so anyway, he said, it shows creative intent.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1129: Russ Swain | The Good Mormon Who Made Bad Money

And he says, I've spent at least 100 hours interrogating, interviewing, questioning this gentleman. And the judge says, well, you're the one who drug him into my courtroom. And he said, yeah, he says, I've spent 20 years chasing bad guys. You get a sense of who's a good guy and who's just somebody who's lost his way. And he says, I say that this guy isn't a threat.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1129: Russ Swain | The Good Mormon Who Made Bad Money

And he says, I've spent at least 100 hours interrogating, interviewing, questioning this gentleman. And the judge says, well, you're the one who drug him into my courtroom. And he said, yeah, he says, I've spent 20 years chasing bad guys. You get a sense of who's a good guy and who's just somebody who's lost his way. And he says, I say that this guy isn't a threat.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1129: Russ Swain | The Good Mormon Who Made Bad Money

And he says, I've spent at least 100 hours interrogating, interviewing, questioning this gentleman. And the judge says, well, you're the one who drug him into my courtroom. And he said, yeah, he says, I've spent 20 years chasing bad guys. You get a sense of who's a good guy and who's just somebody who's lost his way. And he says, I say that this guy isn't a threat.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1129: Russ Swain | The Good Mormon Who Made Bad Money

And he says, what if you gave him a biblical seven years probation? And the judge says, you know what? You know him better than I do. You know him better than the prosecutor. He says, that's fine with me. And he said, seven years probation with the understanding that you have to pay back.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1129: Russ Swain | The Good Mormon Who Made Bad Money

And he says, what if you gave him a biblical seven years probation? And the judge says, you know what? You know him better than I do. You know him better than the prosecutor. He says, that's fine with me. And he said, seven years probation with the understanding that you have to pay back.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1129: Russ Swain | The Good Mormon Who Made Bad Money

And he says, what if you gave him a biblical seven years probation? And the judge says, you know what? You know him better than I do. You know him better than the prosecutor. He says, that's fine with me. And he said, seven years probation with the understanding that you have to pay back.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1129: Russ Swain | The Good Mormon Who Made Bad Money

government for all of the bills that you spent and i said okay if that'll keep me out of jail of course and i said but you're going to have to put me on a payment program because now things upside down again and he says the secret service people are very adept at gathering up the bills they know where to look you have to buy them back from them as they gather up these bills and i said okay

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1129: Russ Swain | The Good Mormon Who Made Bad Money

government for all of the bills that you spent and i said okay if that'll keep me out of jail of course and i said but you're going to have to put me on a payment program because now things upside down again and he says the secret service people are very adept at gathering up the bills they know where to look you have to buy them back from them as they gather up these bills and i said okay