Russell Crowe

who put him into this series of tests and things that he was doing, and some people say that he very, very much affected Kaczynski's brain.

And shifted it.

The guy I play was.

Yeah.

Well, Kaczynski was sort of associated.

He was there at the time that Leary also started working at Harvard.

But the study that my character was doing is more based on sort of like intellectual confrontation.

And stripping people of their self-belief and stuff.

So there are people who think that it was the character I play's intellectual aggression towards Kaczynski that turned Kaczynski the way he turned.

So there's that.

And then I just did a movie in Germany.

It's set in Portland, but we shot it in Munich.

Okay.

How weird.

With a guy called Patrick McKinley, who I've done other projects with before, but he doesn't always get the credit he should get.

But he's the guy that cut The Loudest Voice.

which made it as dynamic as it was.

And he also cut a movie called Poker Face for me.

And we're working together on a music doco.

But usually when I work with him, he's an editor.