Ryan Bingham

That's crazy.

Yeah.

Well, I think when you've done something super, super difficult, everything else seems easier.

And if you've done what you did with riding bulls for that long, like the music business is like, that's the worst that could happen.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah, and no health insurance, and you're risking your life.

And there's not a bunch of people that love you.

No.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, it's a great base to start out from, you know?

I mean, it sounds like it's almost like...

the universe engineered this path for you to go down.

Like, if you wanted to pick a path that would bring you to where you are right now, it is the perfect set of circumstances.

Is a factor, but it's only a factor if you've already had all those other experiences.

Think about it.

If you hadn't ridden bulls, you hadn't gone through all the ranching, all the hard labor, all the different things, then you probably wouldn't have capitalized on that luck the same way.

No, not at all.

Your character wouldn't be the same.