Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. You were fucking great at that McConaughey thing last year. I really enjoyed that. That was my first time seeing you perform live. It was really cool.
Thank you.
It was very cool. You're so relaxed up there, man. So it was like you brought everybody into a nice, comfortable, chill vibe.
It was cool. I'm glad you guys felt that way. Sometimes it takes me a minute to get into the groove, you know?
Yeah, but it felt like that. It felt like you were in it. It brought the whole crowd into it, too. That event that he does, the two events, the one the singer-songwriter won and then the other one with the auction and everything, they're so cool. Such good events.
Yeah, they're good people, too. I've really grown to just appreciate the community around here in Austin and the Hill Country area and all of that stuff. I definitely... wouldn't have the career, I don't think, if it wouldn't have been for the community around here that's just supporting songwriters and music in the way that they do. It's pretty incredible, you know?
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Chapter 2: How does Ryan Bingham describe his live performances?
When they get behind anything, it's just like, it just feels so good to see that many people come together and, you know, have that support.
It's a really good place, man. Austin is a really good community. It really is. A very positive place in a lot of ways. I mean, nothing's perfect. There's no perfect places, but it's really good. I like it so much better than when I was living in California. It just feels like...
Real people just I miss it man. I mean, I'm I'm in the process of moving back to Texas as well Where you at right now? Outside of Dallas, Texas out by Tyler, but okay. I've been in Topanga Canyon in LA for Oh Jesus, you know, so I've been in the middle of it and Doing that Hollywood thing every time I get across the state line.
It's just like that weight comes off I'm home Did you have the coolest fucking character on Yellowstone I
It must be so fun to play.
It was so much fun, man. I laughed. I always talk about it. I felt like I had one of the easiest jobs there. It's because the character was kind of a smaller role. Most of the time, I'd work one or two days a week, and then the rest of the time, I'd just be fly fishing and get lost in the mountains and just disappear out there. It was awesome.
God, Montana's awesome. That show made so many people move out there, though.
I know. You're going to take your license plate off your car before you go.
Right. You better not have a California plate.
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Chapter 3: What role does community play in Ryan Bingham's career?
It's very interesting. They're very proud to be from Montana. Yeah. They want to keep it to themselves. Like, let it go, motherfucker. We're all Americans. All right? If you got a good spot, you should be happy that people from California figure it out. Yeah. Don't be a dick. Like, you're American. Yeah. Bitch, it's not the United States of Montana. Shut the fuck up.
I guess it's kind of anywhere, right? Not that much here. Here's pretty inviting. I've never had that experience here. Not really.
Texas is a pretty friendly place.
Yeah.
And there's so many different walks of life that have been here for so long, you know. I think up there in Montana and stuff, man, if you were tough enough to survive those winters and stake a claim up there, back in the day you had to fight for it, and they're still fighting for it now, you know.
That does make sense. I mean, and that's also one of the things that's highlighted by the whole series, all the different Yellowstone series, the older ones with Harrison Ford and, you know. They really do explain in a lot.
I mean, it's kind of a cool chunk of history to see like how this all got started, how the kind of people that had to survive out there when, you know, all you had is a fireplace. That's it. You got a fireplace.
I love all those mountain men stories, you know, Jim Bridger and all that stuff. It's just like, man, and there is something. You get up there in those mountains, it gets into your bones, it gets into your blood, and it's a different thing, man. It's a spiritual place.
It is. And it's also, it's like the most potent art. It's nature's art. And you don't think of it as art, but God, it's so beautiful. It's like stunt, like sometimes when you're up there, you just have to stop and look like, God, this is gorgeous. It's overwhelming if you haven't been out there. It gives you a feeling. It's almost like a drug that hits you because of the beauty of it all.
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Chapter 4: How does Ryan Bingham reflect on the beauty of nature?
Yeah, exactly. And you could drink right out of the pond. Like the pond was all rainwater and it was too high for beavers. So you didn't have to worry about giardia or anything in the water. You could just drink right out of the pond. Like this is crazy. Yeah, it's the best.
I've never been. I've been to Alaska only like in the winter on a skiing thing. But I've always wanted to go up there to hunt and fish. Yeah.
The people are extraordinary. Those are rugged people. Like when I did a gig with my friend Ari in Anchorage, and one of the things – and it was weird because you get there, it's 11 p.m., it's bright out. Like this is weird. One of the things that we talked about after was like those people were fucking cool.
Like there's something about living up there like where you could die going outside like a good six months out of the year. Yeah. There's fucking bears everywhere. If you look sideways at a moose, it'll stomp you to death in a fucking Walmart parking lot. You better have your shit together. You better have your shit together. There's bald eagles everywhere. The salmon are as big as your thigh.
I mean... The people there, they work together. They're very friendly, but they're very rugged. But they realize you need each other. There's a sense of community and coolness. You need each other. If your fucking car breaks down on the side of the road, you could die. Someone's not going to let you die. They're going to pull over. In California, someone will get them. They just keep driving.
So you just lose this sense of community.
Yeah, you're not calling. That's who you're calling for help in times of need is your neighbor.
Exactly.
I mean, even if, like, the bridge washes out, it's like here comes your neighbor with the backhoe and the tractor, and, like, you just do it yourselves.
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Chapter 5: What challenges does Ryan Bingham face with regulations in California?
And also the air. Along with all the Roundup and everything else that's coming down.
it's just it's uh it's sad man you know it's sad that's just the kind of state of it's like it's it seems like just it's so far of a mess that even the folks that do have answers that do want to fix stuff it just kind of becomes impossible for for any solution you know it's like all the red tape and all the hoops and things and all the permits or whatever like you can't even you know
The roads blocked. OK, well, before we could even get somebody out here with a tractor to move the rocks, you got to call 10 other people to get it approved. And in the process and then it's not. And it's like that's the part I'm just like, man, I wish I could just call Frank down the street. Bulldozer. We'll just go. We'll just go and move this right now.
You know, and it's like, you know. Well, government has increased so much in California and they just want more regulations so they could justify more government.
Chapter 6: How does Ryan Bingham reflect on the beauty of California despite its issues?
And so they just regulate themselves to a place where people just want to leave. They just go, look, I can't fucking do this anymore. Let me get out of here.
And it's expensive, man.
It's so expensive to live there. Meanwhile, it's beautiful. It's such a great place. They fucked it up so hard. It's paradise. It's paradise.
The mountains within like two, three hours. You can be in the Sierras.
The beach. Joshua Tree National Park.
You could go skiing and then swim in the ocean on the same day. It's gorgeous.
Yeah.
Beautiful places I've ever been. Yosemite. I mean, get out of town.
Incredible weather. Kern River. Yeah. Man, it's beautiful. But they got ruined. They got ruined with progressive politics and bureaucracy that just ramped up all the control they have over people to the point where you can't even buy flavored Zins.
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Chapter 7: What experiences shaped Ryan Bingham's transition from bull riding to music?
You can't have blackjack anymore. They just stopped blackjack in the casinos. They stopped flavored zins. They just regulated into oblivion. They're all these people that want to be the mommy of the world. and tell you what to do. Fuck off. Fuck off with all your goddamn rules. You're just making your government bigger so you can justify all these fucking rules.
And you need the rules for the government to sustain itself. So you just keep adding more rules and adding more government. We were reading about it the other day. What was the number that California's government went up by like 24% and their population went up by like 1%?
I know, and now we're running out of places to go. I forget what the actual numbers were that we found, but it's... Yeah, I'm always looking for hideouts to kind of get away from. It's like, man, you find a spot to go to, you kind of don't want to tell nobody about it. I know, right? That's what I hear about West Texas. I think that's what's hard about Montana.
When I first started going up there years ago, I mean, it was just such a... And it still is. It's a paradise. It's just, you know, and I think that's probably what a lot of people are upset about. It lived up there. It's like, man, the secret got out a little bit and I can understand that.
I get it. I get it from that perspective.
They got to let that go. Where's the next place, you know?
The thing about Montana, though, or like Wyoming, another example, is that winter will thin the herd.
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Chapter 8: How does Ryan Bingham perceive the evolution of music and songwriting today?
It's like West Texas. That's funny. Same kind of thing. Like, you know, Marfa and that area. I grew up all out there going to junior rodeos and all kinds of stuff. And it was just ranches, you know. You know, local diners and stuff like that. And, you know, I hear people going out there and buying houses and, you know, all that stuff.
Then they go out there for like a week and they realize that the only thing open at night is the Dairy Queen. They're heading back to New York pretty quick. Yeah. You're right about Montana. Those winters, those thin them out.
The winter gets you. The winter's rough. It's cold. The first time I ever went hunting was with Rinella. That's where I got that mule deer that's on the table right there. And it was nine degrees in October, and we're camping. And so we're sleeping on the ground at nine degrees. I'm like, bro, how did these fucking people – and you also – you go by these old homesteads.
So they were giving land out there for people. You just – you can get a chunk of land, just start farming on it, and the government was encouraging people to move there. But it's all this like –
muddy ground like the ground is like mucky like when you hike in it after you know a while your boots are so heavy because they're just thick with this clay yeah just muck all over your boots and so it's not fertile it's not good like in the missouri breaks like that area it's not good for growing things so you find these abandoned homesteads it's really eerie yeah man you just think like this family that came out here
in like the 1800s and they tried to set up shop and maybe got killed by indians and you know maybe all the way i think about my family i've got stories you know of them settling in new mexico and um you know coming out on a with on a covered wagon with maybe a steer and a pig and they're like yeah here's you a bunch of acres and you got to prove it up you know and
Dig a hole in the ground is what they're living in, a dugout. Dig a hole in the ground, that's where you're living and you try to build a ranch out of it. I always laugh, I was talking to family or my grandparents, I was like, why did y'all stop here? He just thought you were so beat down. You're like, oh, this is the driest, flattest place. But we're here, the most roughest.
I was like, it's only maybe another thousand miles out to California or just keep going. They're like, nope, this is it. We're done.
Yeah, I guess people didn't know what they were going to find if they kept going either. Like you want to keep going for like another month.
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