Ryan Broderick

And then the security guard came over and was very aggressive and

Uh, and then basically Chaperone had to sort of say like, um, I don't know what you're talking about.

Uh, and I guess like the reason I wanted to start here was why do you think Chaperone is so often sort of dragged into these like multi-week scandals?

Yeah, I think that's actually the least talked about dimension to this, which is that like it is...

It is not just that there are fans of pop stars or actors or whatever.

There are also anti fans or people who believe that like their fandom has to come at the expense of someone they deem like a rival.

So like if an Olivia Rodrigo stan

sees that Chaperone is being called out by a Brazilian soccer player, they're going to jump on it because they see it as a victory for the Olivia Rodrigo fandom.

This is sort of the dynamics that are tearing apart the fandom for the show The Pit right now.

Because all the different actors have different fans and they believe that their screen time is based on whether or not that person's a good person in real life or whatever.

I think there's two directions where it's like... A random woman is now being held to the same media standards as someone like Chopperone if they go viral.

Or even if someone just finds their video and makes it go viral.

But then also...

The things that a female celebrity can be canceled for or made a main character for have degraded to the level that we're, like, using to go after a woman who has, like, you know, an argument on an airplane.

Yeah.

It's weaponized both ways.

Yeah, it's just flattened like everything else.

And just to put a bow on this, Jorginho eventually said that this whole thing was a misunderstanding.

Of course, he waited like two months to say that.

But we now know that none of this like really mattered or happened.