Ryan Burge

I do think that the people who show up generally do have a supernatural belief in God.

They do believe in the core.

But I think we can all admit that throughout our lives that our core beliefs have sort of been malleable and we believe more and we believe less.

Absolutely.

And what keeps us in the pew then, right?

If our belief begins to wane in the literal resurrection of Jesus Christ, what keeps us going?

I think it's that social aspect of like, we expect you to be there.

We would like you to be there.

You're a valuable member of our community if you're there.

You're raising kids.

Exactly.

You've got to take them to church, right?

Yeah.

You need both and, right?

I don't think there's a huge number of people who go to church every Sunday who literally believe in none of it.

Right.

I think a lot of people show up and go, I hope I believe or or some days I believe.

Lord, help my unbelief.

I just think there's a certain number of people who are drawn to certainty, and there are certain people who are repelled from certainty.

And what does church look like for that second group, those doubtful people versus those certain people?