Ryan Grim

I don't think that there's any smoking gun in there about the impact of Gaza on the election.

I know that they had that conversation with activists.

I think my understanding is the guy sort of was like, of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, we've got it kind of like

being polite, so I don't know what was in there.

And I don't know if what I... A way to find out would be to release it.

Exactly, we'll find out.

You know, again, I don't think, I think there are a lot of people who want to hear somebody say Gaza was the reason.

And I don't think it is the reason, but I think it is a factor in a reduced enthusiasm for the Vice President and obviously for Biden before that.

And I remember from my own perspective too,

and it wasn't because of the comment section.

I think it was more of the kind of just moral question.

I was really supportive of a lot of things that, like I said earlier, he was doing on antitrust or on labor or on, uh, sometimes on trade, you know, but I would probably, I would mute my praise because I'd be like, he's also on a daily basis slaughtering and participating in the slaughter of children.

Um,

sizable numbers of children every single day, like a child every hour or so for a year.

And so it did make it very hard to be like, this was a great NLRB ruling, and we should all celebrate it, even though it's a good NLRB ruling.

So was that something you noticed intuitively, or...

Did you have interactions with influencers and other surrogates who you were trying to get to go rah-rah?

Walk us through, how did you come to this conclusion?

Which I agree with, I'm just curious how you came to it also.

So I think it's two things.