Ryan Hanley

The harder you grind, the worse leader you actually become.

That's not a motivational quote, that's a warning.

And today's guest, Dr. Michelle Johnston says, most leaders don't fail from incompetence.

They fail because they mistake discipline for disconnection.

And once you hear how subtle this shift is, you won't ever be able to unsee it in your own business.

Lock in friends, this is another episode of Finding Peak.

What are you seeing in the market right now that was the impetus for your book, the seismic shift in you?

What did you see that you're like, I have to address this?

There needs to be this book about this topic.

What were you seeing?

Okay, I have so many questions here.

So one, I want to... I'm going to ask this question, and I mean it with no disrespect to the people who go to things like Fingers 50, right?

But I would consider myself, for better or for worse, very much like...

in the shit, right?

I deal with people who are in the shit.

You know, I am very, you know, I don't roll in the big academic circles.

I tend to, you know, we talk a lot about on the show, you know, what I loosely call like a reality operating system.

Like life seems to make more sense when we operate in reality, not the fantasy that we wish existed.

And I find a lot of times when I read books,

highfalutin academics that have theories and stats.