Ryan Hanley

Let's assume we're both good actors, but we now have that conflict.

How do we start to distangle that?

I don't know if distangle is a word, but I'm gonna go with it.

Detangle's probably better, yeah.

yeah and i really like the way you um the idea of i'm sorry for for the way that i showed up yesterday because i think what that does is for both parties it we're discussing what the problem actually is and not it it keeps the conversation from spreading into other things right this interaction that we had yesterday

I had X, Y, Z going on.

I heard something.

I reacted incredibly poorly.

I shouldn't have been in that mindset for that meeting and whatever.

And I apologize for that.

That I think allows everybody to take and focus on what the issue is versus when we give that like the, the, the husband apology, which, you know, I'm as guilty of as anyone, right?

What ends that opens the door to, but then you did this thing the other day and three weeks ago you did this and now all of a sudden we're down this spiral that just is not productive.

Yeah.

The best advice I ever got was from a mentor about, well, it's probably eight years ago now.

He said, uh, go find a counselor that you respect and just see them every other week for the rest of your life and consider a life expense.

Whether you're in a good spot, bad spot, doesn't matter for the rest of your life.

And she always said, so I go see this woman.

Her name's Margie.

She's amazing.

She's 84 years old.