Ryan Holiday

Yeah.

And so I like I just thought it was important, given where we are politically and culturally, to have an avenue that is not dependent on other people choosing you.

So that's what I've been doing.

Well, and unlike music, which is a lot of work to tour, that is the nice part.

It's like, I literally, it's like, I could take a Southwest flight to any city in the country and, and then you walk on stage and you speak into a microphone.

There's, there's like, you're using a house PA system and there's no, there's no logistics, there's no crew, there's nothing.

And so it's like, do you have an HDMI cable for my laptop?

Okay.

So actually, and it's talking about like challenging yourself, which I want to talk about, you know, Chris Williamson, he's a podcast, modern wisdom.

He's based here.

He was telling me he did it.

He did a tour of Australia or something.

And I said, so like, do you do slides or whatever?

And he's like, no, I just, he's like, I just taught.

And I was like, oh, I'll try that.

And so that's the other thing is like, it's a, it's a totally different kind of, I took it as a challenge at first, but then it also, it does require you to be better at it.

And the slides are props in the sense of like they're propping you up a little bit.

You can get away with not being as good because you have a funny picture of you.

I think I did it first as the challenge.

Yeah.