Ryan Holiday

And now people ask me what I am.

I say very confidently that I'm agnostic, which people think means atheist.

But what it means is I don't know because how would you know?

No, I definitely found myself evolving on a number of issues where I don't know exactly what the answer is or I don't know exactly what the right thing is.

I just know that this is wrong and this is wrong.

And it's probably some complicated combination in the middle.

And again, this sort of intellectual humility.

I've had the distinct pleasure and by pleasure, I mean torture experience.

experience of updating a couple of books that i did a long time ago like i've done a 10-year anniversary edition of one book i'm about to do a 15-year anniversary of one book i will tell you that the most difficult part of that is when you read a sentence that you wrote at 23 or whatever 25 or whatever your age was oh man and you're just like where the did this person get off you know

How dare I?

The certainty does not age well.

We do tend to come down really hard on people who change their minds as if that's not the whole point.

I feel like we need to do the opposite.

Come on.

And this is something that Socrates talks about.

He says, you know, it's important that the Socratic method is built around this, obviously.

But he says, remember that nobody's wrong on purpose.

You think back to all the things that you now admit you were wrong about.

You did not know you were wrong at the time.

Right.