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Ryan Kidd

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

of AI labor, right?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

If you can get them to run faster, massively parallelize things, and just, in general, just get them to do your homework, those 2063 AI alignment plans might be automatable over a shorter period of time.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

And so we should definitely be pursuing those because the more we do to raise the waterline of understanding on these different scenarios,

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

the easier it will be to hand off to AI assistance or to accelerate AI input.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

I do think it's interesting you said BCI research because I recall being at a conference once when someone was talking about, okay, so the way we're going to solve alignment is we're going to solve human uploading and we're going to like put someone to the computer and like get them to do 100 simulated researcher out, 100 simulated researcher years or something.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

And then you maybe build like, it's not very sci-fi, very pantheon.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

But then Eliezer Yankowski put his hand up and he said like, I volunteer to be number two.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

which makes sense, right?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

You don't want to be the first guy that might go wrong.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

But yes, people are seriously pursuing that.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

And I think it is interesting.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

I have talked to some BCI experts about a year ago, and they said there's no way that we get BCI in time for AGI.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

Sorry, it's not BCI, sorry.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

No way to get human uploading in time for AGI unless you actually have AGI, right?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

The time period required would require massive amounts of cognitive labor and human trials and stuff like that.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

And I don't know, it does sound very sci-fi.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

So I don't think we should rely on something like that.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

Though I'm all for people pursuing moonshots on the side.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

That's part of what maths is about, right?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

We have this massive portfolio with a few moonshots in.