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Ryan Kidd

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958 total appearances

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Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

I would bet mid-level and higher people are making over a million, even on the safety teams of these labs, but I don't have any private data on that.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

But yeah, if you join as a junior software engineer, don't be surprised if you get somewhere around $350K or something.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

At nonprofits, obviously, it's lower, right?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

They can't compete with equity.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

They don't have any equity, but they also typically have less funding.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

Coefficient giving's pockets aren't as deep as the collective might of U.S.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

venture capitalism.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

And I think there is also something like, there is something like a nonprofit tax.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

I wouldn't say there's a safety tax.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

I'll say there's a nonprofit tax, right?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

Because there are nonprofits that are doing like AI capabilities stuff, like Allen Institute for AI.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

People make a lot of money still, right?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

There's like, this is artificial intelligence, right?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

And Coefficient Giving understands and other funders understand that, you know, you have to pay to play.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

So you have organizations like Meter where they are, I believe, offering quite a lot of money for their roles, upwards of $300K for most roles.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

Like, yeah, probably over a million for some, I would dare say.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

So there are nonprofits that are really, really trying to compete for talent.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

They can't offer anything like the Frontier Lab salaries, including equity, but they're trying their best.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

And I think this is kind of reasonable, but it also is a bit...

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

It is a bit of an insane moment.