Ryan Kidd

Math salaries are not anywhere near that high.

Maybe we're doing the wrong thing.

I don't know.

Yeah, and I think there are other AI safety nonprofits that have tried very different strategies.

Like you have, I think the going rate for far AI is research scientists or something like 100, 170K.

So like significantly lower.

They might have actually improved that recently.

So there is a wide spectrum here.

And it really depends on the compensation policy of the organization.

But you will see very well-funded nonprofits offering comparable salaries to at least some junior AI company roles.

Yeah, so, I mean, Matz offers 12K, I'll say budget.

I won't say, like, we don't give people a card that says here's 12K.

No.

They have to justify their compute spending.

You know, they have to, like, have an actual project and proposal that they are going to spend that on that necessitates that.

And most people don't spend anywhere near that much.

Which is good, because we budgeted as if they could, but we really don't want to just waste money on compute.

Basically, no one has compute limitations.

Sometimes people rarely have needed more than that.

We've considered their proposal and thought hard and reallocated funds as needed.