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Ryan Knudson

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Podcast Appearances

The Journal.
'Eject! Eject! Eject!' Inside the Private Credit Panic

Okay, we've been talking about the money going out the door, but what these companies are really focused on is the money that's coming in the door.

The Journal.
'Eject! Eject! Eject!' Inside the Private Credit Panic

That's what their stock value is based on, how much money is going into their funds.

The Journal.
'Eject! Eject! Eject!' Inside the Private Credit Panic

And that number has fallen.

The Journal.
'Eject! Eject! Eject!' Inside the Private Credit Panic

And that is really dangerous for these firms because their valuations and their ability to do business is based on raising new money.

The Journal.
'Eject! Eject! Eject!' Inside the Private Credit Panic

People talked to each other like at the golf course in January.

The Journal.
'Eject! Eject! Eject!' Inside the Private Credit Panic

And I was told this actually by some of my sources.

The Journal.
'Eject! Eject! Eject!' Inside the Private Credit Panic

This was all anybody was talking about because they were hearing about it from their friends.

The Journal.
'Eject! Eject! Eject!' Inside the Private Credit Panic

You know, wealthy people hang out with wealthy people and it set off a chain reaction.

The Journal.
'Eject! Eject! Eject!' Inside the Private Credit Panic

The craziest thing about this is, like, right now the major governmental initiative around private credit is not to rein it in, but to, like, turbocharge it.

The Journal.
'Eject! Eject! Eject!' Inside the Private Credit Panic

And it's happening at the worst possible time for these firms.

The Journal.
'Eject! Eject! Eject!' Inside the Private Credit Panic

This is really important, particularly if you're a retired person, because President Trump signed an executive order in August instructing the Department of Labor and the SEC to find a way to make it easier for private credit and similar products to be put in 401ks.

The Journal.
'Eject! Eject! Eject!' Inside the Private Credit Panic

So we all might be invested in private credit pretty soon, and we might not even know it.

The Journal.
'Eject! Eject! Eject!' Inside the Private Credit Panic

Because it's massive, right?

The Journal.
'Eject! Eject! Eject!' Inside the Private Credit Panic

I mean, it's trillions and trillions of dollars.

The Journal.
'Eject! Eject! Eject!' Inside the Private Credit Panic

And as a fund manager, you get paid based on your assets under management.

The Journal.
'Eject! Eject! Eject!' Inside the Private Credit Panic

You get a percentage, you get a fee on that, right?

The Journal.
'Eject! Eject! Eject!' Inside the Private Credit Panic

So you just want to grow that as big as possible.

The Journal.
'Eject! Eject! Eject!' Inside the Private Credit Panic

And this is like the holy grail.

The Journal.
'Eject! Eject! Eject!' Inside the Private Credit Panic

It's the biggest concentrated piece of wealth in the country.

The Journal.
'Eject! Eject! Eject!' Inside the Private Credit Panic

They have spent years, like some of them decades, trying to get these funds into 401k programs, and they're almost there.