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The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

Coming up on the show, how deportation officers ended up staffing America's airports.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

The Transportation Security Administration, or TSA, was founded after 9-11 to centralize airport security under one agency, instead of leaving it up to the airlines or private contractors.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

It was meant to make airports safer, but the change also made airport security more vulnerable to political infighting.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

Now, every time there's a government shutdown, the TSA is affected.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

The last shutdown lasted 43 days and ended in November.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

Then, in January, after ICE officers killed two American citizens in Minneapolis, Democrats used a different budget deadline to pick another fight over government funding, this time specifically related to the Department of Homeland Security.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

DHS oversees ICE.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

And so what is it specifically that Democrats are demanding?

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

— After the policy became public, a DHS spokeswoman said that people targeted under this policy, quote, have had full due process and a final order of removal from an immigration judge.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

Without funding for DHS, TSA agents stopped receiving paychecks in late February.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

And earlier this month, many of them stopped showing up for work.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

That's how you end up with all those videos of airport lines stretching all the way out to the parking lot and people having to wait up to eight hours to make it to their gates.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

So can you tell me the story of how this idea to send in ICE came about?

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

It started last Friday when a woman named Linda from Arizona called into a talk show hosted by a radio host named Clay Travis.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

Linda had an idea.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

We need to bring in ICE agents and fill in... Clay Travis thought it was a great idea, and he started sharing it more widely.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

In a scrum with reporters, Trump said sending in ICE was his idea.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

Mine.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

The idea was so simple, he said, that it reminded him of the story of the paperclip.

The Journal.
How ICE Went From Deport… to Airport

But hold on a second, though.