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Ryan Knudson

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The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

In 2019, the Burton family hired a lawyer and prepared to fight for ownership of the building.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

But before they made their move, the Nashville Church of Christ, under Mathis, sued Amy and the Burtons.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

In a statement, Mathis' lawyer said that attempts to take control of the building and oust Mathis are motivated by the church's rising property value.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

For seven years, the church was stuck in legal limbo.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

There's actually a term for the kind of hostile takeover that Mathis has been accused of, steeplejacking.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Steeplejacking is happening all around the country, especially in the Midwest and South.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

And because steeplejacking most often seems to happen to these independent churches, it's a problem that's hard to track.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

After years of fighting, in October, the Burtons and the Nashville Church of Christ settled.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

They agreed that the building would revert to the estate of A.M.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Burton, but the parking lots would stay in the hands of the Nashville Church of Christ and Sean Mathis.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

The agreement also requires that the property be sold, with the Burton family receiving 80% of the proceeds and Mathis' group receiving 20%.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

The church's attorney said his client, quote, made the strategic decision to settle the very narrow litigation related to certain deed restrictions.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

The attorney also said the church looks forward to investing its portion of the building sale proceeds into its global mission efforts.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Have you thought about writing a song about what happened with the church?

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Amy has an idea for how she wants it to end, though.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

She says she's spoken with groups and philanthropists about turning the building into a center to help the homeless.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Several groups have already made offers to buy the building and turn it into a base for one or multiple non-profits, according to Burton family court filings.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Can you paint a picture for me for what you hope this church becomes?

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

This episode has been updated.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

A previous version incorrectly stated the salary amounts Mathis and his father were paid.