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Ryan Knudson

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The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Around Nashville, Amy Grant is considered music royalty.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

She's been called the queen of Christian pop, with a string of hits like her 90s single, Baby Baby, which my sister and I used to dance to when we were kids.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

There's kind of a bit of a running joke on our podcast about how like when I have people on, I sometimes make a joke about trying to get them to sing.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

But I think you might be the first person with the actual chops to sing.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Sadly, no, we are not singing today.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Amy politely declined.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Okay, back to the story.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Amy heard from her cousin Andy Burton, a local dentist, who had caught wind of what Mathis was doing at their great-grandfather's old church.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Even though Amy hadn't gone to the church since her great-grandfather's funeral, she often saw it when she played concerts downtown.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Why did you feel like it was something worth fighting for?

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

But Amy and the Burton family had found a way to fight for control of the church.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

That's next.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

When A.M.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Burton set up the Central Church of Christ back in 1925, it, like all buildings, had a deed to go with it.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

But this deed had a rather unusual line in it.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Here's my colleague Cam again.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Remember, the church had stopped offering services in the building after Mathis took over.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

So Amy and her family thought they could use that provision in the original deed to try and regain control of the church.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

It's amazing that your great-grandfather had put that line in the deed in the first place.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Yeah, it's crazy.