Ryan Mauro

And then when they question everything that they believed about the West being good, even if they don't fully identify with it,

then leads them to say, for the sake of my safety and the sake of the rebirth of how I look at everything, you know what?

The Islamists were right.

And that's the ISIS game plan.

And so shooting up a mosque, that to them is essentially an act of jihad.

That's what they want to happen.

Right.

So a lot of these, even the radical mosques, won't preach radicalism 24-7.

They address all sorts of issues in life, and then when the political stuff comes in, then that's there.

And not everyone that goes to these mosques, and I've really only come to understand this from dealing with Muslims, a lot of them will go to these mosques that are radical because it's a community.

As a minority, it's a very tight community.

And so the imam might say some crazy things, and they don't really talk about it.

That's kind of your crazy uncle, and you listen to him about other things.

And then also, you don't know of the people that are going.

Yeah, I mean, the relationships with people, we will focus on the jihadist element and think that that's the entirety of the relationship, but these are people that knew your kids growing up.

It's a much deeper and broader relationship.

And so they may stay, but they're not into the political stuff.

Others may not know about it.

So the middle ground can include some people that are even at a radical mosque and don't know it's radical or they don't care.

They could be informants.