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Ryan Schwenk

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
397 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

We could tell a cadet up and down that they were going to get themselves killed in the field or get arrested.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

or violate the law with what they were doing.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

And I hope, and I believe many of you guys listened to that, but it didn't matter if they didn't.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

They could still graduate no matter what we saw them do.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

We reached out to DHS to ask about all of this.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

They didn't respond.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

They did claim, though, in a statement in February that, quote, no training requirements have been removed.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

The statement says that actually the training has been beefed up from eight hours a day to 12 hours a day.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

It also somehow claims that the hours are the same number of hours that recruits have always received.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

DHS says they're teaching the Fourth and Fifth Amendments in a way that is, quote, structured and comprehensive.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

They called it integral.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

When Ryan first made his report, it was about the memo.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

That was his main concern.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

But now, over five months of teaching, he'd seen so many things wrong with the training, he felt like that needed its own report.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

And he felt like somebody needed to be the face of that to make it as credible as possible.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

In January, immigration agents killed Rene Good and then Alex Bredy.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

That same month, Ryan started talking to congressional staffers about going public, testifying to Congress.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

He was going to take some time to relocate his family, and then he'd resign from the academy.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

He told his wife, his parents, and his in-laws about his plan, but not all his siblings or extended family.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

part of it was I don't want to burden them with certain things right um and then also you have to keep in mind I was working for the Department of Homeland Security I was working for the largest law enforcement agency in the United States I frankly wasn't confident that I could communicate with my family over the phone without conversations getting flagged really