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Ryan Schwenk

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
397 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

Like, did any of them come to you and say, like, we don't feel prepared enough?

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

We don't feel ready?

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

Yes, I had cadets say that to us.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

I had cadets on multiple occasions say they felt unprepared for the job.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

I remember one cadet was talking to us about, like,

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

We were dealing with kind of the issue of like entry into a yard.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

And the cadet was having a lot of difficulty understanding how to apply that set of rules.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

We kind of walked him through it a couple of times.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

And he was talking about how like everything the academy kind of goes in one ear and out the other because they're rushed from one thing to the next to try to meet that schedule.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

Of course, fast training can still be rigorous training, as long as you test people to make sure they got it.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

And Ryan says that in this new compressed training, crucial real-world skills were not adequately tested, like using a gun correctly or subduing somebody in the field.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

Under the old academy structure, what existed before the surge, these practical exercises were graded.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

The students had to pass these exercises to graduate.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

If they didn't pass the exercise, if they demonstrated a lack of knowledge of the law or the tactics involved, they had to repeat the class.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

And if they failed twice, they were out.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

They did not get to graduate.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

Meaning they wouldn't become an ICE officer.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

But now things were different.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

So now no matter what we saw the cadets do in these scenarios, they still graduated.