Ryan Schwenk
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And cadets started telling him that they were going to be sent to Minneapolis, which was already underway and all over the news.
He kept thinking about that during the trainings.
There's this scenario where they're making an arrest outside of business.
and the individuals not combative or anything like that the officers are placing them under arrest outside of business and in this particular scenario we had enough role players that we had a few acting as observers right a few acting is like people from the public doing exactly as in minneapolis which is coming up with their cell phone and filming with their cell phone and yelling hey what are you doing you know telling the officers that they're fascists or whatever right just like they say in minneapolis and this one cadet
was on what they call perimeter.
This one role player, protester, got, I guess, too close to the officer's comfort zone.
I didn't think it was close enough.
I don't think any of those searchers thought it was close enough, but they thought it was close enough.
But they told him to back up.
And then immediately, I mean, I don't think they gave them time to respond, like to react to the command to back up, pulled out their pepper spray.
And this cadet simulated using the pepper spray to pepper spray this role player, right?
And it was categorically, I mean, I don't think a single instructor there thought that it was an appropriate use, right?
Like it was not appropriate.
It was not justified by the circumstances.
And when we asked the cadet afterwards what happened, their explanation was that this is what they were seeing in Minneapolis, that they were doing it just like they would up there.
For Ryan, what he was seeing on the news, which was experienced officers being too aggressive too often, that made him more alarmed about what he was seeing during his own shortened trainings.
And what he was seeing during trainings was making him more alarmed about what he was seeing on the news.
He worried his cadets weren't ready.
Some cadets worried, too.