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Ryan Schwenk

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
397 total appearances

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This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

that instructed ICE officers that they could enter into a person's home without a judicial warrant.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

In other words, instead of ICE agents getting permission from a judge to go into someone's home, they would only need to get approval from ICE using a form called I-205.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

It's funny, when I first read it, it was so innocuous sounding.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

that at first I didn't think there was anything wrong with it.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

I read through it and was like, oh, okay.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

So we're going to use I-205s to go into houses.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

And then it was kind of like when you see like a cartoon character, like their feet stop and they try to break and they kind of like skid, right?

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

Kind of what my brain did as I read this, I was like, wait a second.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

And then I read it through again, more carefully the second time.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

The Fourth Amendment of the U.S.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

Constitution says a warrant is needed to enter someone's home.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

And courts have consistently said that this applies to everyone who is physically in the country, not just citizens.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

So Ryan saw this new policy, and he thought... Oh, no.

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

I was by no means at the time an expert on the Fourth Amendment, right?

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

Obviously, I know the Fourth Amendment because I'm an attorney, but it's not like I'm a constitutional scholar on the thing looking for, like...

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

Things to nitpick, right?

This American Life
882: Give a Little Whistle

I'm a lawyer who knows the Fourth Amendment the way most lawyers know the Fourth Amendment as a thing that you learned about and apply in generalities.