Ryan Schwenk

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397 appearances 4 recordings 4 series first heard Feb 2026 last heard 8 Mar

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This American Life · 882: Give a Little Whistle · 8 Mar 2026 podcast

And even at that level, looking at this, I was like, this, this is wrong.

And my instructor, my supervisor was clear, like, if you're not comfortable teaching this, just tell us.

Ryan says his boss also casually brought up that the person who worked here before him had expressed concerns about it, said they felt strongly enough about these concerns to resign.

And now they don't work here anymore.

Like saying, nice job you got there.

Would be a shame if something happened to it.

I don't think I was told the story by accident.

I was told all this before I was shown the memo.

So it was very clear to me that I was being told all of this and then shown the memo so that I understood I either teach this or I lose my job.

You're going out the door and you're going home and not home to work back in Indianapolis.

You're going home as in you're done.

You're done with the agency.

Ryan mumbled something about having to think it over.

I kind of like backpedaled a little bit.

And kind of like kept my answer vague.

Weirdly enough, like my supervisor was like, do you want to go get lunch?

And then we come back and then I was like, I excused myself when I went home and I called my wife and I was like, honey, I think I've kind of walked into a bear trap here.

And within this bear trap, another bear trap.

Ryan had also been told, when you teach this, don't write anything down.

Deliver the information verbally, no paper trail.

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