Ryan Sean Adams

What are the lessons?

What are the takeaways?

Where do we go from here?

This wasn't released yesterday, was it?

This was released in February.

Yeah.

Well, I read it yesterday.

Odysseus, is that what the credible layer does that Dan just mentioned?

What does FileX do on that?

So I think as we wrap up this episode, the question that's lingering in my mind that maybe other listeners have is, is DeFi going to be okay?

Like, are we going to make it through this?

And it seems very much as we look at April 2026, we are in a...

different type of scale limitation.

So in previous cycles, maybe DeFi scale was limited because Gary Gensler wouldn't let us do it.

And the regulation was pushing against us.

Or maybe it was block space was too expensive and Ethereum wasn't scaling.

Those are not the constraints for DeFi scaling anymore.

It seems like the primary constraint, if I were to ask

people on the bankless journey or even those outside is security.

Like they're worried that their on-chain funds are going to be hacked.