Ryan Sean Adams

And there's something about the Moxie Marlin Spike approach to really appreciate, which is start from the user, not from the technology.

There's this, you know, stack or span of interacting things.

But start from the user and the Moxie Marlin Spike approach is this is not especially educated or sophisticated in this particular thing, right?

This is a user who wants to talk to someone.

whether or not a cryptographer or a computer programmer or a Linux hacker.

And the basic, he posted recently, he's back, by the way, Moxie Marlin's bike fanboy hour.

Moxie started posting like a couple weeks ago for the first time in years.

He's making a private AI.

And in this post, he mentioned something about Signal.

I think it goes really deep.

You said, in a sense, the whole idea of Signal is that the UX should reflect the underlying reality.

I don't remember how he put it, but I'll just tell you my version of it.

If you open a chat app because you want to talk to your friend, and it's not encrypted, then a good, accurate user interface...

would show you the little icon image of your face and your friend's face and the CEO of the company and the system administrators, right?

You know the little window that says who you're talking to on the chat app?

You with me?

I'm with you.

You're scowling.

What do you say?

Right, so an accurate UX that tells the user what's really going on shows all these other parties listening in on your line.