Ryan Shelton

find out while we were just at lunch.

We were just having lunch, having a great lunch.

And I got a message telling me that, so you guys know that my, I've been working on this TV show.

Yeah.

For like...

It feels like 25 years, but for years and years, I've been developing it with the ABC.

And this is like a show that I've been trying to get my TV show, for anyone who's been listening to the podcast for a long time, knows that I've always dreamed of my own TV show.

And anyway, I've just found out that it's not happening.

And it's like, they're basically, they're passing on it, which I'm actually weirdly okay about, but...

it's, it's, uh, yeah, it's just a very, it feels like a weirdly, I've got like the kind of butterflies and I feel like nervous talking about it, not nervous talking about it, but I just feel, I guess like obviously emotional about it a little bit.

Um, not to the extent where I'm, I'm devastated.

I mean, to be honest, my first emotion when I saw it, saw the message was kind of relief in a weird way.

Um,

I've been working on it for a long time.

It was like a super personal show that was really a lot of it was about –

a period of time in my life where Jam and I went through a really bad time.

So it was, it was a comedy, but it was sort of about that based on, on us really.

And it's just, it's been, it's been like, you know, and what we do is like, not, it's not hard work necessarily, but for me, like writing a show and trying to get it right and trying to kind of access all the,

I don't know, feelings and emotions and trying to retell stories, uh, trying to do justice to it.

Anyway, whatever.