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Well, they're not going to meet a diagnostic criteria. Progressive, et cetera. Yeah. What is the diagnosis? It's always this progressive. I don't know if it was, was it on your podcast or did I read about this somewhere else where when they took, you know, there's the classic study about taking rats with cocaine and

Well, they're not going to meet a diagnostic criteria. Progressive, et cetera. Yeah. What is the diagnosis? It's always this progressive. I don't know if it was, was it on your podcast or did I read about this somewhere else where when they took, you know, there's the classic study about taking rats with cocaine and

And they had water and cocaine and they would like press that lever thousands of times to get the cocaine. Somebody else repeated that but added one that had sugar in it and their cocaine use went significantly down when sugar was also present. Well, meth addicts will consume sugar and meth more readily than either one alone. Different drug.

And they had water and cocaine and they would like press that lever thousands of times to get the cocaine. Somebody else repeated that but added one that had sugar in it and their cocaine use went significantly down when sugar was also present. Well, meth addicts will consume sugar and meth more readily than either one alone. Different drug.

And they had water and cocaine and they would like press that lever thousands of times to get the cocaine. Somebody else repeated that but added one that had sugar in it and their cocaine use went significantly down when sugar was also present. Well, meth addicts will consume sugar and meth more readily than either one alone. Different drug.

We see this when people get sober, that there's people that will get very heavy. They'll engage in what looks like a food addiction. And when we peel that back, I can't tell you how many times I've heard of people recognizing their first addictive behavior was going to the sugar bowl and taking spoonfuls of it.

We see this when people get sober, that there's people that will get very heavy. They'll engage in what looks like a food addiction. And when we peel that back, I can't tell you how many times I've heard of people recognizing their first addictive behavior was going to the sugar bowl and taking spoonfuls of it.

We see this when people get sober, that there's people that will get very heavy. They'll engage in what looks like a food addiction. And when we peel that back, I can't tell you how many times I've heard of people recognizing their first addictive behavior was going to the sugar bowl and taking spoonfuls of it.

I've actually heard people say that food addiction and probably specifically around sugar is often the primary addiction for people. It's kind of like how they get in there. I'm sure that's not true for everybody. But I think if we broaden the term of addiction beyond what – use disorder is in the DSM and move towards, do you have it or does it have you? Absolutely.

I've actually heard people say that food addiction and probably specifically around sugar is often the primary addiction for people. It's kind of like how they get in there. I'm sure that's not true for everybody. But I think if we broaden the term of addiction beyond what – use disorder is in the DSM and move towards, do you have it or does it have you? Absolutely.

I've actually heard people say that food addiction and probably specifically around sugar is often the primary addiction for people. It's kind of like how they get in there. I'm sure that's not true for everybody. But I think if we broaden the term of addiction beyond what – use disorder is in the DSM and move towards, do you have it or does it have you? Absolutely.

I mean, I don't think we can become sugar dependent in a way that if we stop it, we're going to go into some sort of major withdrawal, but I would imagine there'd be some sort of withdrawal. Same with caffeine. I've seen people go into psychosis with caffeine. I never want to find out what happens if I quit caffeine. You might just always be in psychosis, caffeine psychosis. Thanks for that.

I mean, I don't think we can become sugar dependent in a way that if we stop it, we're going to go into some sort of major withdrawal, but I would imagine there'd be some sort of withdrawal. Same with caffeine. I've seen people go into psychosis with caffeine. I never want to find out what happens if I quit caffeine. You might just always be in psychosis, caffeine psychosis. Thanks for that.

I mean, I don't think we can become sugar dependent in a way that if we stop it, we're going to go into some sort of major withdrawal, but I would imagine there'd be some sort of withdrawal. Same with caffeine. I've seen people go into psychosis with caffeine. I never want to find out what happens if I quit caffeine. You might just always be in psychosis, caffeine psychosis. Thanks for that.

No, not you. I meant all of you. Yeah, I mean, I love caffeine, but I keep it in check. You can take that out. I can sleep well. No, no, that's fine. I actually can sleep on it too.

No, not you. I meant all of you. Yeah, I mean, I love caffeine, but I keep it in check. You can take that out. I can sleep well. No, no, that's fine. I actually can sleep on it too.

No, not you. I meant all of you. Yeah, I mean, I love caffeine, but I keep it in check. You can take that out. I can sleep well. No, no, that's fine. I actually can sleep on it too.

I don't either, but once in a while I do and it doesn't. You're definitely getting less REM sleep in there. I'm sure I am. But you look rested, so.

I don't either, but once in a while I do and it doesn't. You're definitely getting less REM sleep in there. I'm sure I am. But you look rested, so.

I don't either, but once in a while I do and it doesn't. You're definitely getting less REM sleep in there. I'm sure I am. But you look rested, so.