Ryan Urban

I'm doing a lot of vertical and geographic expansion too.

So you make those investments and they pay back very quickly.

I think as a, as a public company, we look to like privately, it's like, it's less as a public company.

You want something that's like kind of in line with, with public stuff, especially you want to look at your growth rate.

And I think we'll have more than a 50% growth rate next year.

And maybe we do 60 or 70, depending.

I think we'd probably be in the,

in the eight to 10 X next year's, uh, forward rep maybe.

So, so, and public and private is very different.

So, um, but yeah, something like that, but it's a one, one more public or public.

And that's, that's a, it's a good scoreboard, but I mean, the reason I go public is, is really to attract talent.

That's, that's the main thing.

We're going to do that.

Yeah.

So it's very cool.

We're going to do that.

And then, and yeah, that's, that's, that's where you look to get the right partner.

Someone's going to be investing you looking at five-year time horizon before your public company, say a year before that you want someone who's looking at five-year time horizon, wants to invest in your IPO, wants to recruit other great investors, people like in our case, we're enterprise.

So we want introductions to the CEO of target, right?

So we want to, we want to co-design products.