Ryan Urban

That website might be paying $25,000 a month.

And the website with 10 million visitors also has a more mature customer base, more people with their credit cards on file.

So the bigger we go on market, the more ROI we could actually provide.

And when we're charging more money, we can invest a lot more money in services and give it away for free.

So it just allows us to make the technology better.

put a lot more support, which we do never charge for, for our clients, uh, allocate them more engineers, conversion specialists, graphic designers, data scientists, all that stuff.

So, uh, moving on market as quickly as possible.

That's our goal.

So a number of clients, and we probably on like 700 something websites, but paying clients is, is, uh, I think somewhere between 250 to 300.

Okay.

We might have a client that has 50 websites.

Well, if you count, some customers have a lot of websites.

Yeah, yeah.

You can kind of do the math.

Averages are very deceiving because we have a lot of legacy clients in the few thousand dollar range.

But going forward this year, it's somewhere between 15 and 20K a month for larger clients.

And we'll typically have 15 or 20 people from our team working on their accounts at all times.

Uh, no, because a legacy customers are certainly paying less.

Well,

I know you asked, but the average, say if we took the average, say if you look at someone's average conversion rate, that's a number that doesn't exist in the real world.