Ryan Whitney

They're going to want something big.

Cool.

That's pretty cool.

Do you kind of miss the van a little bit?

We sometimes miss the van.

We got a van our second year as a podcast.

We took it on road trips and it was a lot of fun.

It stinks.

It still stinks to this day.

Kind of like we would smoke cigarettes in there and fart and burp and just be smelly.

you know but but and then you you evolve and you you know the show gets bigger at least in our terms and you know we stay in hotel rooms sometimes there's an rv that takes us around but you kind of miss the van and do you miss the van there's kind of like a uh

Yeah.

But there is something I would imagine that like the that making it the climb to make it.

There's a little bit of nostalgia for it.

I mean, I feel it sometimes with, you know, just what we've done.

And like you look back, you're like, oh, man, that was the energy that you had in that moment where you're trying to make it.

It just it something that you can't really replicate once you've accomplished some things.

Who were your bands that you listened to and shaped your style as a musician and your records?

I love that quote.

to talk about sports it's actually fascinating talking to you because i've thought this about you for a long time and i i hope you take this as a compliment but you are always very intentional and very meticulous about the different layers that you record when you're putting out it on the different layers of sound that you put out there it feels like you're you're being very specific you know what you want and you're very experimental sometimes with some of the sounds