Ryan

Wait, what music festival were you at?

What kind of music does Brian like?

Wait, but you got pilled into crypto by Brian Armstrong, right?

That's kind of cool.

Yeah, that's kind of cool.

That's a good story.

That's a good way to come in this phase.

It's so fascinating because back in 2013, in fact, I think this is part of the Coinbase founding vision.

It was more about the payments use case.

You even look at the first lines of, what is it, a peer-to-peer payment network?

Isn't this in the Satoshi White paper?

It was all about payments.

It was like, when are we going to get to the day where you can buy your cup of coffee with Bitcoin at your local Starbucks, right?

That was always the dream.

Maybe you said payments is very much in vogue and we'll talk about that.

I'm wondering from your perspective, being in the space for so long and observing it and actually working on this project, the payments project in crypto for eight years, why now?

Because to some people, this will look like an overnight success.

Maybe they'll go and they'll be like, oh, the genius act did this or something like that.

From my perspective, it feels like a tech tree that crypto has been building out

I was getting my mind, the tech trees and like civilization, you ever play that game where you sort of, you know, your civilization discovers mathematics and then they can branch off to physics and then they can get, you know, nukes or something like that.