Ryan

Well, it's like crypto had to have cheap block space, I think.

Because that was really expensive the whole time on Bitcoin, on Ethereum.

And then also had to have some sort of a payment type of asset.

Because for all that Bitcoiners have talked about Bitcoin for Starbucks, there's a trade-off there between using your Bitcoin at Starbucks and it being a store of value asset that you don't actually want to spend it.

And so stable coins were the other unlock.

I see cheap box block space and stable coins as the tech tree reason that crypto is now like really focused on the payments use case and everything's kind of fallen out from that.

What's your take?

Wait, this will actually shock people.

So you think you have around 700,000 daily active users on Sellout?

Okay, this is on Grow the Pi.

Where would I find this?

On Chains?

Chains, let's see.

Merrick, can we get into the qualitative for a moment?

So some really impressive metrics, particularly on the daily actives, right?

So this implies that some of the type of user, obviously Tron is by far a leader among sort of stablecoin payment chains in terms of total value locked, right?

There's so much USDT on top of Tron.

But you just said when it comes to daily actives, these would be like kind of smaller payments.

Yeah.

weekly actives, okay, that Celo has actually taken a lead.