Ryder Strong

Yeah, I think that the reality shows that I gravitate towards are the ones that are more game show based.

And then even like Alone, which is about survival, you know.

Dancing with the Stars.

We had a great time watching Dancing with the Stars.

Well, see, that's kind of my problem is that I feel like

you know, it's the frog boiling in the water thing.

It's like these little degrees of like, well, what are we going to accept as okay to like just stand by and let people do live on television or not even live, but we're going to edit it and exploit it.

And, you know, I feel like, yeah, if you think back to the way the news used to be or even these early reality shows,

it was nothing compared to these days, you know?

And I think, of course, everything's been accelerated by the internet.

So videos.

UFC is kind of that, right?

I mean that I remember when UFC, I know, I know you're a fan, but I remember when it first came out feeling a little, I mean, I can't watch it.

Like I can't, I can't even really watch a regular boxing.

I find violence really hard to watch and I find it, you know, so abhorrent to experience.

I've gotten more used to boxing, but I like it better in a fictional context.

I

Right, because they're both doing Brazilian jiu-jitsu.

Watching somebody punch somebody else in the face repeatedly is really hard for me.

Agreed.