Róisín Ingle

That's kind of useful in the world as well.

You know, I mean, not just putting a glass half full spin on it, but that is, I feel...

And I don't know if that was if I was like that before, but I've always been and I remember from a very young age, like watching things and observing things and seeing how people are.

And I don't know if it came from that sort of very dark thing happening.

You know, I'm not sure, but I sort of connect them a little bit.

But also I did like because my dad wasn't there a lot.

He wasn't there as a figure for me.

He wasn't somebody that I can tell you loads of stories about how we did this.

And then I really missed him.

So I wasn't like, I had that absence, but it was more this horrible idea that he'd gone out into the back garden and hung himself on an apple tree, you know, where we play and we have our obstacle courses and all that kind of thing.

And there was a very, there was a darkness there, you know.

Yeah, we stayed in the house and the apple tree was there and the life went on.

And

Yeah, there was, I suppose, a darkness, but it but it didn't seem to infiltrate us.

And I do put that down to my mom and you've met my mom and you know what she's like.

And she was the solid, you know, beautiful, warm, all of the things that you want in parents.

She probably had in more abundance than maybe two people.

You know, she maybe had enough for two.

I feel like that's it could have been a lot worse.

Yeah, it's funny, isn't it?