Róisín Ingle

I think that connection with myself allows me to be someone who can have connections with others.

It's well done, Roisin, 10 years ago.

And it's more than that.

It's probably 20 years ago, to be honest.

Yeah, it's interesting.

No, I did.

I mean, you know, I've done a lot of thinking about that because sometimes you can blame other people and be very much like, oh, other people made me feel like that or whatever.

But I now when I reflect back.

I was so willing to subsume myself and to be in the shadows and to not be the main character like they say these days, don't they?

The main character.

That's what it is, yeah.

It's almost like I was drawn towards people like that.

People who were going to kind of shine brighter than me.

so that I could kind of hide away in the shadows and and you know I mean I have to take responsibility for that like I do now because you could just say oh no I met this person and they were you know they didn't give me as much but actually maybe that's what I wanted you know there's a sort of sense of wanting to disappear and it's okay if you're in if you're in the shadows and you're not in the you don't have to there's no disappointment you know because you're not gonna nobody's expecting anything of you so you can just kind of be there you know behind the scenes

A bit of that blame me.

I know I blame myself completely.

Oh, did you?

Completely?

Well, there was one moment when, after we came back from Fenor and after he died, his mother rang up.

I wanted, rightly, to understand why we were out swimming at that night.