Róisín Ingle

I don't drink anymore, but I used to love drinking.

And that was also part of an escape.

Food was an escape.

Yeah, from the feeling.

I think it was all just, like, I think people with addiction, you know, and I think we understand this so much better now, which is wonderful, but it's about, life is really, really difficult.

At the best of times, even if you don't have any childhood trauma, it's just a weird existence we have, you know, this human condition that you talked about earlier.

It's, you know, and if, like you said, if we all said what we really felt,

You know, everyone would be like, we'd all be in some kind of institution in some way.

Like, you know, we don't do that anymore.

But we used to do that with people just expressing how painful it was to live.

We did it in this country more than any other country, you know.

So I was just saying about addiction.

I just feel I understand it more like it's so obviously a way to cope and to survive.

anything that's going to make you feel anyway, just on an even keel or like you're not you're not traumatized or that bad things didn't happen, anything that's going to give you respite from that.

And for different people, you go towards different things.

And I don't know the science of that.

I mean, I have a very vivid memory and, you know, I have written about this.

I wrote about it in that in that piece that you discussed earlier of sitting in the Bors's chip shop in the back room and then saying that I could have anything I wanted in the chipper.

That was the day of my dad's funeral.

I have such a vivid... I actually told Edith Eager about that.