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And if they do, they're gonna get caught instantly.

Now there's a very different social contract.

Like I was saying earlier, everybody there acquiesces to an immense amount of digital surveillance.

So you were talking about the immediate ticketing,

that's happening, that's just like the tip of the iceberg.

The ability to cross the street, your face is all being scanned.

People make a big deal about social credit, but it actually goes much deeper than that.

The ability to transit even inside of the country, your ability to move between cities, that's all pretty restricted.

Or at the very least, you need permission from somebody.

Most Americans would have no ability to acquiesce to that.

They have a different culture than ours.

They came, a lot of the current people who are alive, their generation, they came from the chaos of the cultural revolution.

And then imagine what their grandparents and other people had to live through.

Genuine poverty, civil war, Japanese World War II.

immense death and famine.

So for them, like order is the thing that must be preserved above all costs because they have lived.

I mean, do you know anybody who died in a famine?

No.

Over there, you probably do know at least somebody who has a relative who did or who was displaced through mass collectivization or who was bayoneted by a Japanese soldier or by a CCP soldier or by a, you know, I'm totally, but KMT soldier.

Something like – their country has been – basically was in chaos from the year, I don't know, 19 – even earlier, maybe the 18-something, all the way up until 1970 or so.