Saba Salman

And I went on to the Reform website just for research purposes to see what it would take to stand as a candidate.

And, you know, obviously the nominations have closed now.

But before that, it was very clear they were very, very, very keen for as many candidates, many people as possible to

to stand and clearly said, you know, no experience necessary, which given the state of local government now, bankruptcies, pressure on services, you really want somebody in there who knows what they're doing.

Well, also dead bodies.

We've had a reform candidate, mayoral candidate last year who'd actually been dead for six months.

So, I mean, you know.

And Liz Truss's husband was one of those paper candidates.

For reform?

No, not for reform.

Apologies.

For the Conservatives.

At the moment, yes.

Yes.

Although she has kind of.

Yeah, she's so spiritually reformed these days.

And that is exactly what's happened with reform, with the 10 councils that reformed one last year, 677 councillors, and a lot of them did not expect to actually have to do the job.

And they got there and been shocked and have been quite crap.

But to go back to the technical term, it's high.

It sounds like some sort of jargon.