Saba Salman

And it's gone absolutely tits up.

It is.

And it's I think, you know, what people often forget, successive governments have cut back.

on these main areas that councils have to.

So while the responsibility is still there, the supply of the cash that's going to help them meet that responsibility is year on year shrinking.

I think one thing actually in some of these cases with the housing companies and the regeneration companies that are launched, I think it's not just about money.

I think we've proved it's also about the glitz and the glamour of rubbing shoulders with the big developers and, you know, going to conferences abroad that are,

That fracture is really interesting.

On one hand, you've got Labour and Tory local candidates distancing themselves.

But over here, you've got reform.

And the Greens bigging up the cult of personality with Polanski and Farage.

So it's really interesting.

And over in Durham, we talked about Durham earlier, you know, they've got a life-size cardboard cutout of Nigel Farage in their reform meeting room, which they cut off to the main council chamber.

So I think they must have been really excited when they had the rally in Sunderland because they had the real guy there.

It's just a bizarre suggestion.

What about the impact on smaller shops then?

Because that's supermarkets, isn't it?

It's only the big shops.

Well, they would lose out massively.

Definitely.