Sage Robbins

60 keeps getting better, like wine, truly.

I'm scared.

I said way to your 40s and 50s.

Oh, no, life only gets better.

Even with all of it, life only gets better with age.

Right.

You grow through it and you come up with like, I remember we were going through, well, we were, you know, we just miscarried and we were going through a lawsuit and we were both so stressed and we were speaking in a way that was unlike ourselves.

And I was being harsh and intense and it felt like that from him.

And we had a moment, we were in the kitchen, remember, we were living in the desert, and I said to him, I'm like, honey, like, I love you way too much to speak this way.

And that moment really, like, it was a pattern interrupt.

And we, from that point, it's like you catch yourself.

You catch yourself in the middle of the madness and it's just, and say I'm sorry.

It's like, honey, I see myself.

I'm behaving so ridiculous.

I think if I was to say one thing that why we are here is we both take responsibility.

And I think, you know, the old way is you said this, you did that, you know, you big jerk or whatever, both ways.

And so it's the external blame or the external demonization.

Relationships really change when it's like, it's me.

it's me and he takes responsibility and we take responsibility and there's such freedom in that you know like there's such freedom in just like I love you and I'm sorry and I see how I was just being versus you did this it's like I

I, and I think at this stage of our life, that's the greatest freedom.